The bottom line of the two kinds of company policies (fixed price and negotiated <- notice how it's called acc. to my books) is the following: - A large company that operates on a prospected market and sells volume can afford and usually does use a fixed price (with some elasticity built in - i.e. quantity discounts). - A small company that operates on an unknown low volume market and does not sell volume, usually sells by negotiated price. The bonus is 'more flexibility'. The price of this flexibility is usually enormous (in $$) in the end. Both methods have pros and cons. The 2nd (the one you do not like), emphasizes a 'personal' contact, more possibilities for later direct marketing (your Kelley), and requires less PR, advertising and mail-out money. It is unusable from the moment when they start selling more than a few 100's of something, unless they franchise out the representative network, and build a distribution tree. imho this kind of marketing is going to die with Internet commerce catching on. Customers have too many options with fixed price companies, to even bother with an email enquiry to a 'negotiating' web site. As you have discovered, Mark, negotiating means person-to-person contact, and seeking it if it is absent (Kelley). The people who do this, are on sales/franchise bonuses and they won't let go. Why don't you tell her what happened ? BTW you could have haggled imho ;) The 1st is the way to go for impersonal over the shelf products with reasonable sales volume (i.e. make it and forget it - also applies for things like electronic kit projects which all fall into about the same 'category', even if you make about 5 a year). It is associated with respectable initial PR and advertising costs and near zero thereafter. When a product is no longer selling more PR is invested to revive it or it is removed from the offer. This is the best way imho, including for online shopping, and is extremely easy to set up and maintain assuming one uses a WWW provider with e-commerce support. Most online shops (that do not close down soon after opening) work like this afaik. hope this helps (memories from marketing courses), Peter