At 16:07 10/12/98 -0600, you wrote: >|I miss the 16F472 because of his lower >|pincount - my target application has only few room to stay, and while >|I4m somewhat lazy, I liked >|the build-in peripherals - and a 12C67X - well could have 4 more pins > >I'd guess that Microchip may have decided on a different course >for 14-pin offerings, starting with the 16C505 (a 12C509 with a >little more RAM and 6 more I/O's). I'd guess that if that takes >off they'd likely come up with a similarly-extended 12C671. > >OTOH, what I'd sorta like to see would be for MCHIP to introduce >18-pin parts with the built-in oscillator. This would allow two >more I/O's to be added to existing designs while maintaining pin >compatibility (ever wanted to add a new feature to an existing >product and wished desperately for another I/O pin or two?) Maybe >it's just my upbringing, but somehow 18 pins seems like the right >size for a micro... Well, I know there are planned 14-pin parts in the 14-bit core variety. Internal OSC and MCLR so you are only one short of the total available on the existing 18-pinners. Footprint wise they are similar to the 18-pinners when top justified. (Use same programming pins anyway.) They do not follow the foot print for the 16C505 which is an extended 8-pinner. Jim -------------------------------------------------------- Jim Robertson Email: newfound@pipeline.com.au http://www.pipeline.com.au/users/newfound --------------------------------------------------------