In a message dated 12/10/98 11:01:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, mtdesign@FAST.NET writes: << No, Gerhard, I haven't. The best I can find so far (and "best" includes "can actually purchase in 20K volume") is the Phillips PCF8570. Andy >> Hi ANDY! Since I am looking for somthing similar, I found the Dallas DS2404. It has twice the ram as the Philips part and has a real time clock as well. It will work with the 1 wire protocol or a 3 wire protocol or both. It also has a 48 bit unique serial number rom. They are $3.89 in 1000 piece qty. Dave Duley Dreitek Inc. www.dreitek.com