a little investigation revealed that: 1. My ISP is using PPP, but not PAP. That's makes a PIC dialup a little easier. That would depend on what they're using instead. I don't think you want to try to do MD5 (used for CHAP) on a PIC. 2. My ISP doesn't support TFTP. Off hand, I'd guess that UDP might be doable on a PIC. But I can't think of any common UDP services that would be useful for transfering a moderate amount of data. TFTP uses UDP. TFTP *is* the common UDP service for transferring a modeate amount of data. It has no security of any sort, so it wouldn't be very popular for ISPs... BillW