Some lighting suppliers here (GTE Sylvania?) have a low wattage (6watt?) UV tube for germicidal use shaped in a U. This is made to be run with a ballast but can be run with a lightbulb in series instead. very cheap and nasty (and it works). The same trick MAY work with low wattage fluorescents - they would certainly run but may not strike easily. Nowadays I use a standard single tube fluorescent holder cut down in length to fit a 20? watt UV fluro. Very rapid for the devices I use it with (not PICs). regards Russell McMahon From: Clem Taylor >I was about to order a $40 EPROM eraser for my PIC16C77/JW based project, >but with the new PIC16F877 coming out early next year, I won't have much >use for the eraser in the near future. So, I was wondering if someone >could recommend a cheap way to erase EPROMs, or a dirt cheap eraser? I'm >only going to be working with two chips, one in the eraser and one in >program/debug. The eraser I was looking at was the DATARASE IIAC, from >Walling Co., sold by DigiKey for $39.95. I was hoping to spend <$20. >Any ideas?