Hi Alan, I use ARESLITE for PCB's and ISISLITE for schematics. Both available from http://www.labcenter.co.uk as shareware. The shareware has an annoying nag screen but to register the programs is only 20UKP (30$) each or 30UKP (45$) for the pair. I find both the programs easy to use and they do exactly what I want. Keith http://www.btinternet.com/~krazy.keith Krazy Keith's World of DIY Home Automation ---------- From: Alan Nickerson[SMTP:anick@IVERSOFT.COM] Sent: 28 November 1998 12:25 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: PCB Layout Software I dont really want to re-hash an old topic. But I was wondering if there is any really good shareware or freeware PCB Layout software. Alan