>>The 16C84 is a pretty tough chip though. >>Yes they really are. I had one in my experimenter board and I >>was testing something else and powered it with 12V for several >>minutes. And it's still working great. Octavio !!!!!!!Several minutes !!!!! WOW lucky man,it's really hard to believe it would be that way a second time 'cause same hapenned to me 12V just for several seconds and is gone forever to the trash can. Eddy