On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Andy Kunz wrote: > I have a PIC project customer who is looking for a sonar transducer. Some > sort of hydrophone which will be rather non-directional. They tried fish > locator ones, but they're too directional. Use an acoustical lens with the directional one. This is easy to make once you know what you want but will require some precision machining or plastic molding. A turning mill (engl?) is enough usually. With the directional transducer + acoustical lens you can do almost whatever you want with the beam, including pick up so much background with each echo so as to render it totally useless. The biggest sin is to open it more than 180 degrees (get surface reflections in each return). I haven't got much experience in this, just tinkering in an empty (empty of people, not water) swimming pool, so ask some more. A good acoustics book will cover acoustical lenses. Stuff that applies to 20kHz dome and horn tweeters mostly applies to 30-40kHz ultrasonics, with the usual caveats (water, not air, thus the wavelength is MUCH shorter). Peter