So the failure mode would most probably be a condition where the oscillator won't start? ie. Straight DC on the XTAL lines? Is the only advantage to using a crystal, the better accuracy? Craig > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Dave VanHorn > Sent: November 12, 1998 1:03 PM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: Crystal fault symptoms. > > > Craig Lee wrote: > > > > I have been using xtals in development for some > > time now without the external caps. > > > > I was wondering what the fault symptoms might be if they were > left out in a design. > > Anybody have some experiences to share here? > > Could the oscillator fail to start? > > Any opinions whether a resonator is more reliable? > > > It's not a matter of reliability, those caps are REQUIRED for a paralell > resonant oscillator design. > You may certainly see cases where it dosen't start without them, but > this isn't the xtal's fault. > Obviously you had enough parasitic capacitance in your prototypes to let > those specific crystals start in those specific circuits, but if you put > this into production, you better invest in a plane ticket to the > production facility, a bag of caps, and a good soldering iron. > Leaving the caps off is a Bad Idea. >