On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Steven Keller wrote: > Is it possible for an EPROM (16C63) to check out as blank, program, and > verify correctly but not be fully erased? Yes. I let them sun themselves one hour every 5 to 10 erase/program cycles to avoid it. When I did not do that I did see strange things after a few cycles (no pattern). I used 54JW, 711JW and 508JW. By the time I moved to 711 and 508 I already used my one hour sunbath method and never saw strange effects again. I suppose that an incmoplete erasure leves some charges that can migrate back and forth after a while. I have also designed & built my own 54 programmer and wrote the soft for it so I did a lot of checking on erase patterns, what is erased first etc. There is almost no pattern, you can't guarantee that the fuses are erased last (on a 54JW), and in general, just leave them in there long enough ;( Peter