That is really rank, yes. Good application though. I suppose 'kicking the dog' would be inhumane as a trigger mechanism in this instance. I would suggest a simple one shot on the collar, and a little RF loop receiver, receiving from a simple transmitter sending a pulse every second. The pulse would re-start the ramping on the one shot and thus no change in the light output. When the pulse no longer comes, the collar shuts off. So two 555s, two transistors and some support circuitry,and you've got it. Very low range, perhaps a few meters, but should be good. Only problem you might have is if there are several blind people in the room, all the collars will stay activated if anyone is transmitting, but this is a minor problem that isn't worth the additional circuitry to solve. Craig >off after 1 minute with no reception? Might do! Whole new meaning to >"Watchdog Timer" though ) > > Mark, mwillis@nwlink.com >