This is just like Don Lancaster says in his Case Against Patents files! Thanks for your thoughts. I'm back to reality now after flaming Zhu for making me feel like he'd somehow snag my PIC code over the Internet while I sleep...He'll probably only do his decode service for mega products like TV remotes, and they expect the competition, and have more work than they can handle in the higher end stuff, so an insider said recently. John Griessen -----Original Message----- [JG]... It looks to me like Microchip is caught up in the industry fad of making wild IP claims (who ever used the term IP more than 2 years ago) to bolster their stock value. I can't help but think that these patents are weak, and are only useful as a threat against startups that might threaten their market share. In effect, any startup has to budget a sizable amount of cash to keep attorneys on retainer and hope they can bring their case to court before they go bankrupt or lose their venture capital. The flaw in the "IP as a weapon" strategy is that you can't afford to risk having crappy patent claims invalidated in open court if you have sold your stock holders on the idea that your "IP portfolio" is the basis of the company's value (rather than your popular products). Why else would Microchip have only brought 6 of its 67 wonderful patents against Scenix, and later dropped the number to 2? BTW - The burden is on the patent holder to show infringement, not the other way around. Justin Zeit [Zeitcorp@AOL.COM]