Take a look at David Tait's site. http://www.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/piclinks.html . It has a PIC 16x84 programmer simple to construct. It work very well and it can serve as proto board for small developments. The MPLAB windows software tool is free from www.microchip.com Regards Robert Rivoir -----Original Message----- From: tens [SMTP:tens@IDOLA.NET.ID] Sent: vendredi 25 septembre 1998 10:30 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Dear PICs users, Ê I'am a biginning to study for PICs, and I have aÊ limited budgetÊ to purchase neccessary development's tool for PIC, and I think first I need a Programmer. Can you tell me which is the suitable( cheap and useful ) programmer that I may purchase ? Ê Looking forward to hearing your further advice and information. Ê Best Regards, Ê Paul H.