Hi Niki, I havent actually tried this solution but I have considered it..... Run your cables from a central point as you are proposing, but run CAT5 or similar and wire as follows.... Main Controller -----Blue pair in cable to 1st node then connect the Orange pair to the blue at node 1 This sends the signal from Master to node 1 and ends up on the Orange pair of Node 1 cable back at the central point. Join the Orange pair of Node 1 to the Blue Pair of Node2 At node 2 join Blue and Orange Join the Orange pair of Node 2 to the Blue Pair of Node3 At node 3 join Blue and Orange etc... At the final node terminate the Blue pair with a terminating resistor and also a t the Master. The net result would be an effective continuous network without any taps TWICE t he length of your total cable runs but with only single cables to each location. As mentioned earlier I HAVE NOT ACTUALLY TRIED THIS but I see no reason why it shouldnt work. Of course others may know better :-)) Best Regards Keith http://www.btinternet.com/~krazy.keith Krazy Keith's World of DIY Home Automation ---------- From: N Steenkamp[SMTP:STEENKMP@FIRGA.SUN.AC.ZA] Sent: 18 September 1998 22:14 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Reflections in RS485 PIC Network? Hi, I have designed a network of PIC driven units that will be installed in an injection moulding factory. The network is a muti drop RS485 with a simple master-slave protocol. The whole thing works beautifully, but I'm a bit concerned about the effects of the network wiring when it is installed in the factory. I am planning on using an Ethernet-like structure where each unit taps from a center connection. My baud rate is 19200 and the taps can be quite long 10's of meters. What would be the effect of all these taps (since each tap is a discontinuity in impedance)? Would I have problems with reflections? Also, I cannot put a termination resistor at each slave since the DC load would be too high. Would AC termination be a good idea to help minimize reflections from each slave back into the network? The alternative is to snake the central conductor to each node, thus elliminating the long tap wires. This, though, makes the wiring more difficult and more expensive. Lastly, I have 6V8 bidir-tranzorbs from each of the two differential lines to ground in each slave and make use of a shielded twisted pair cable. Is this sufficient (in terms of interference and transient protection) for such a network? I would appreciate any suggestions! Thanx Niki