To summarize several comments: Electrolytic capacitors reek. Unfortunately I'm trying to build an extremely low cost device, and I can tolerate a lot of variation from part to part. I looked into a PIC design, and it effectively increases the price of the whole assembly by some 30% (do the math, this thing is really cheap.) So ya get what ya pay for. I Spent the last 2 days building an oven that can test components at elevated temperatures and graph them vs. temperature. My conclusions are that electrolytics have a slightly positive temperature coefficient (this was verified by a mfr) a 100 uF nominal cap at 25C was more like 105 uF at 85C. That was just before the can split open, however (sheesh) at 120C. I've been afraid to use tantalums because the probably have excessive leakage compared to a low leakage electrolytic. But I'm not so sure. I may look into tantalums again soon. My first experiment which seemed to indicate capacitance dropping is still a mystery. There are several components that could be exibiting troublesome leakage or tolerance change at elevated temperatures. I'm testing them in my oven one by one. I think my original conclusion was erroneous. To sum up, at high temperatures diodes are not diodes, resistors become thermistors, capacitors become bombs, SCR's become transistors, black becomes white, politicians become honest, and pigs can fly etc. etc. This is worse than designing for RF circuits, it's like black magic. Everyone who suggested a Timer or a PIC is right. -- Lawrence Lile Download AutoCad blocks for electrical drafting at: http://home1.gte.net/llile/index.htm