Andy Burgess ( mailto:aab@cichlid.com ) has set up a mailing for the purpose of discussing the development of pic tools. Here is his announcement: ************************************************************ The gnupic mailing list is up. To subscribe: echo subscribe | mail gnupic-request@cichlid.com >From the charter: This list is for developers of the GNUPIC project. See http://reality.sgi.com/jamesb/gnupic. From that webpage, the goal of GNUPIC is to "present an entire suite of PIC development tools under GPL, so that people can program PICs using the platform and operating system of their choice." General PIC topics are better suited to the PIC mailing list, email LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU for information. ************************************************************* Or to be more explicit, you subscribe by sending a message to gnupic-request@cichlid.com with the word subscribe in the body. To send a message to the gnupic mailing list, you use gnupic@cichlid.com for the address. Major announcements will continue to be posted on the PICLIST. Scott PS. There's a wonderful two-sentence trailer attached to all messages describing how to unsubscribe...