I posted this a few days ago, but I think the server ate it. Here goes one more try: Have you considered the Dallas DS2401 ( http://www.dalsemi.com/DocControl/PDFs/2 401.pdf ) ? I recently used it to provide a "MAC" address for each of the nodes on a multidr op RS-485 network. It saved me the effort of trying to serialize the programed PICs. Each device c ontains a 48 bit unique ROM serial number. They are prices at about $1.50 in sm all quantities. Another nice thing about these is that they only require one bi -directional I/O pin to access. Dallas also includes the serial number in each of their 1-wire devices. If you a re using one of their 1-wire thermo. sensors, you already have you serial number . If you device communicates with the world via a display or serial link, why not hold down a button or the like during power on to place the unit in a diagnostic mode where the serial number and any other parameters could be accessed? -mgresham At 01:56 PM 8/26/98 -0500, you wrote: > Maybe somebody already suggested this, but what about an ink >stamp that puts the serial number on the board in resist ink or >exposes an area to light as in contact imaging so that when the board >is etched, the printing is left in copper. Since it is designed to be >read by humans, it wouldn't matter if it was copper over the board >material or the opposite which would be letter-shaped holes in the >copper. > Michael Gresham, KE4SWX mgresham@spsu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't forget to tip the boatman." -------------------------------------------------------------------------