On Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:54:32 -0700 Ansel Sermersheim writes: >(I already sent this out, but I think it got mangled. Apologies if >it's a dupe.) > >>>>>> "Rigby-Jones," == Rigby-Jones, Michael writes: > >>> Hi! I hope my opinion doesn't make anyone angry, but I don't see >>> why anyone builds a programmer. I guess if you are a manufacturer >>> and needed to program hundred's of chips you might want build >>> something. But with that exception, why not just spend the $200 to >>> $2,000 and get a complete working programmer? John Kirk >>> >>> >> Thats fine for people with a few hundred $'s to spend on a hobby >> they may be just trying out. The parallel port programmers cost >> just a few dollars and do the job perfectly. In fact a 16F84 and a >> cheapo homebrew programmer has to be the cheapest way of developing >> a microcontroller application ever. > >I'm rather new to this list and to electronics in general, but I've >been a software person for a long time. I don't have much to spend on >what is for me a hobby, and as a college student I have essentially no >free income. > >Could anyone point me at a programmer out there that would be a good >start? I'm perfectly capable of putting it together from a schematic >if >neccesary, but I don't think I can design one yet ;) > >Additionally, if someone could point me toward a PIC assembler and >downloader for my preferred environment (Linux), I'd be very grateful. > >Thanks very much, >-Ansel Sermersheim >-- >GCS/CM/IT d- s+:-- a--- C++++ UL++++>$ V? P+++ L++(++++) E++ W+ N++ >w--- >M-- PS++ PE Y+ PGP++ t++(*) 5+++ X+ R tv b++++ DI++++ D---(+) G++ >e*>++ >h!>++ r--- y? > Viva la linux! first check out http://www.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/piclinks.html he has a lot of good programmers you can build and supplies everything except parts. Second at http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/rsargent/picutils.html theres an un*x assembler and simulater. At http://www.eskimo.com/~nexus/picpgmr.shtml is a linux downloader. Georg Hager gave me this link http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/pic.html for "prog84". And finally at http://www.ccc.notingham.ac.uk/~cczsteve/pic84.html theres a programmer for the '84with linux software look in the "third party contributions" for the linux software. I hope this helps you out P.S Everythings almost for PIC16C84 Matt k _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]