At 09:04 PM 19/8/98 +1000, Clyde Smith-Stubbs wrote: >Under some circumstances there is current returned via the neutral wire. >For example, if you were to place a block of dry ice in your refrigerator, >the 'fridge will have to operate in inverse mode to warm the ice up >to the preset temperature. This means it will return current via the neutral >wire, which will go back into the electricity grid. Utter BOLLOCKS - this is complete rubbish ! Active and neutral form a circuit - a proper power delivery system (single phase) has the same current on active AND neutral - and NO ground current ! (Unless its 3-phase Delta - then minimal neutral current) >Similarly, if you have a piece of toast in a toaster that catches fire, >it will heat the toaster instead of the other way around, this will >also cause current to be returned via the neutral wire. Are you saying if I heat my toaster it generates power ~` ? WHether you heat the toaster or not the neutral current is the same ! >In any case, many appliances that are not 100% efficient will always return some >current via the neutral since they take in more current than they actually >need. If you disconnect the neutral, the excess current backs up and stops >the appliance from working, since it cannot get rid of the excess current and >becomes clogged with electrons. ROFL :)) - This is a joke - right ? >You could dump the excess current to ground, but the electricity authorities >do not like this (it's wasteful) - that's why they encourage you to install >earth leakage detectors. BOLLOCKS AGAIN - The earth leakage detectors are safety devices ONLY ! It is dangerous to perpetuate your idiotic myths - some people might actually remove protection devices due to your outright errors !!!!!!!! >Oh, and the other major need for it is when you switch a ceiling fan >to run backwards, for winter use, it will actually draw current via >the neutral wire instead of the active, because the motor is running >backwards. hehe - this MUST be a really bad joke - please guys do take what this guy says as serious in any way shape or form - EVER ! >Hope this helps. No way jose' you just caused a really bad case of confusion amoung those that don't understand electricity ! >Cheers, Clyde >Clyde Smith-Stubbs | HI-TECH Software >Email: clyde@htsoft.com | Phone Fax MAYBE You should stick to software... PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM POWER - Of ANY kind - especially Politics ;) Actually if you write things like the above without understanding anything, then I would think you'd do the same with software as well... Is this one reason why Hi-Tech has a problem with their compilers ? Rgds ~`:o) Mike Massen Trading as "Network Power Systems" Perth, Western Australia Ph/Fx +61 8 9444 8961 Products/Personal/Client web area at http://www.wantree.com.au/~erazmus (Current feature - trip to Malaysia to install equipment in jungle power site) Some say there is no magic but, all things begin with thought then it becomes academic, then some poor slob works out a practical way to implement all that theory, this is called Engineering - for most people another form of magic.