>Also I have just posted my own windows driver for the picstart plus that >works indepenantly of MPLAB. I have had the one person give me repeated >assurances that it works under win NT. You know, I was thinking that it just might be possible to intercept the win16 communications calls from MPLAB and 'translate' them into the win32 equivalents. You'd need a win16 program to do the intercept, and a win32 program to actually do the communications. And you'd also need some kind of thunk between the win16 and win32 world (OLE? DDE?, WM_COPYDATA?) to pass the data. Almost makes me wish I had a picstart plus... newell