John Haggins wrote: > Amazingly, none of the books highlight these symptoms or give > any kind of bold text warning/tip - it must be a common cause of failure > for beginners. > Check out the web site below. There are lots of animated tutorials on this type of problem and others. -- Best regards Tony Multimedia 16F84 Beginners PIC Tools. **New PicNPrac** http://www.picnpoke.com Email picnpoke@cdi.com.au