> Is there any way to around it or is it the configuration problem ? > So is it really worth in using the AutoRouter ? has anybody successfully > made a PCB in Traxmaker or Eagle with the Autorouter ? > > Any solutions to make realistic PCB's out of Computers ? A couple of years ago I went through the exercise of trying every autorouter I could lay my hands on. For each one we had existing boards from single sided through to 8 layer/SMT both sides that had been done manually. The 8 layer board had taken me 4 weeks to get full connectivity and then another couple to tidy it up, check and so on. All of the ones we tried (which covered the spectrum from cheap to expensive) fell into 1 of 2 categories. 1) Specctra 2) The rest Neuroroute (as it was being marketed then) produced good results on some boards but failed on others. There was no means to tell it anything about the board, so if it didn't work, that was it. There were two things that makes Specctra stand out, IMHO. The routing algorithm is sensible. On the first pass it tries to achieve 100% connectivity with no regard for design rule conflicts. On subsequent passes it changes that rule so that the conflicts have more influence on where the tracks are placed. From a users point of view this means that it tells you almost straight away, if it thinks it will succeed. More importantly, it allows the board designer to tell the router things about the board that influence the routing. Each of those items that David VanHorn mentioned can be specified and given a weighting. eg. The track from pinA.1 to pinB.1 must go by the shortest path and/or on top of the board and so on. You can specify rules like this for pin to pin, nets, components, groups of components, areas of the board, etc. There are also crosstalk based rules, equal length rules, driver-load-termination rules and so on. It's not a cheap tool but it does allow the designer to do the thinking and the software to do the work. That is where the others all fall down. You can get useful work out of cheap autorouters but I wouldn't pay extra to get one. I found the most productive way to use those is to lay out your components the way you want them and then spread them out to 4-8 times the size of the board. Give the board to the autorouter with plenty of space and let it join up the pins. Then start moving tracks and components back to where you want them. As you do this, you can make changes to the tracks and still keep your connectivity. (I have no association with CCT but having done it manually for years, I appreciate its worth) Steve. ====================================================== Steve Baldwin Electronic Product Design TLA Microsystems Ltd Microcontroller Specialists PO Box 15-680, New Lynn http://www.tla.co.nz Auckland, New Zealand ph +64 9 820-2221 email: steveb@tla.co.nz fax +64 9 820-1929 ======================================================