There are some very expensive autorouters out there, but the ones I've used (including Dasoft on an old CP/M system and my current use of AMS EZ-ROUTE) have made a real mess out of the board. I use the AMS system extensively and am quite happy with it. I just don't use the autorouter. Harold Harold Hallikainen harold@hallikainen.com Hallikainen & Friends, Inc. See the FCC Rules at http://hallikainen.com/FccRules and comments filed in LPFM proceeding at http://hallikainen.com/lpfm _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]