You can try Byte Craft (http:\\www.bytecraft.com) (dos based) IAR http:\\www.iar.com windoze based. ... to start with. -----Original Message----- From: Don [mailto:bjmcpher@USIT.NET] Sent: Monday, July 27, 1998 7:29 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: c compilers I want to try to learn C. So, I'll need a compiler for the pics and also a compiler that runs under windoze or dos, so I can learn the language. I have a book called "programming in C", by Stephen G. Kochan. I would like to keep the cost as near zero as possible. I downloaded some compilers for windoze or dos. Most of them wouldnt even compile their own sample programs. So far the only one that seems to work is the pacific shareware version, but I dont know what its limitations are. At least it has enough info to run it. Does anyone have any reccommendations for decent compilers that I should look at? Also, what is available for the pics, since I would eventually need a pic compiler? Thanks, Don