At 17:16 16/07/98 +1200, you wrote:
>I am so confused.
>
>We would like to program surface mount PIC16C63's.
>
>I designed my PCB for ISP but found our Advantech Labtool48 Universal
>programmer won't do it.  It needs the chip plugged into the ZIF
>socket.  Citron Chang from Advantech says the Labtool48 doesn't use
>an ISP method to program the PIC.  What other methods are there?

There was a parallel method of programming the 14-bit parts but it is not
specified anymore. (It would be no good for the 8-pin parts and Quad packs
etc.)

It is possible though that the silicon Die still supports it however it is
a risky business for programmer OEMs to not change over to the ISP method
indeed.  Sounds like some lobbying is required.

My own programmers used to have a Parallel/ISP  option but now I provide
only  the ISP method for the 14-bit core parts.

>Anyway I'm thinking of using our PicStart-16C to program the 16C63.
>Can I make that do ISP using an adaptor to plug the relevant pins
>into the ZIF socket?

Yes. Without doubt, it is straight forward 5-wire job. Just connect the
surface mount programming pins to the same on the 40-pin zif.

Jim

>Thanks
>
>
>Paul Gaastra                              pgaastra@hort.cri.nz
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