> > Where did this come from Jim? Can you offer a Microchip link with > further info? I can't seem to find any info on Microchip's site to back up > what you say. In fact, the latest programming spec for the 12C family > (30557c.pdf on the site for download) says 25 times max, and 3X overprogram. > Trying to scare everyone that owns a programmer? Microchip - if > you're listening, could you clarify? Thanks, > > Jim I can verify what Jim posted. Here is the delight that arrived in our e-mail box on June 26: *** All Third Party Programming Partners are advised to incorporate this revised programming algorithm IMMEDIATELY *** Please be advised that Microchip has revised the current programming algorithm for the PIC16C5X, PIC12C5XX, and PIC12CE5XX products to achieve consistent programming yields over process and product variations. Following is the list of Microchip products which require this Revised Programming Algorithm : PIC16C52 PIC16C54B PIC16C56A PIC16C58B PIC12C508A PIC12CE518 PIC16C54 PIC16C55 PIC16C57 PIC12C509 PIC12CE519 PIC16C54A PIC16C56 PIC16C58A PIC12C508 PIC12C509A All Microchip programming specifications are available on the Microchip WEB site at http://www.microchip.com with a copy of the affected programming spec (DS30190G and DS30557D) attached. Microchip customers have been notified of these changes and have been advised to contact you for updated software or firmware if using above devices. A copy of the notice is also attached (CN# 98-062201 dated June 26, 1998). I'm not sure why you were not able to find updated specs on the web, maybe they have yet to be posted. We will have an upgrade for our PIC-1+ programmer software by the end of this week! PIC-1+ users can download these changes from our web page and begin programming the '50x devices with the new algorithm as soon as we post the software. No mention is made as to when the PICSTART Plus firmware will be enhanced. It looks like those of us using older PICSTART units for '5x programming will be left with a door stop with the latest algorithm change. Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris B. Sakkas (chris@itutech.com) http://www.itutech.com ITU Technologies (info@itutech.com) ftp://itutech.com *** Your source for Microchip PIC development tools! *** *** PIC Programmers, emulators, compilers, books and more! *** *** Order Toll Free in the US! 888-4ITU-TEC (that's (888)448-8832)***