On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Lawrence Lile wrote: > > Pads is, IMHO, a klunky piece of software at best. My version (an > old DOS version) crashes all the time, so I can't use it. Newer > versions are ported into windows with the DOS interface, making them > even klunkier. I would at least use a piece of software that was > written for windows to begin with. I use PADS, and am current with my maintenance contract on it, so I can safely comment about the new versions. I have never had a crash. The windows 95 interface is pretty complete, though I have not tested OLE to a great extent. It does all the testing and engineering changes to and from schematic and pcb, warns me if I have clearance or other errors, does not route shorts into the board, every board I design comes out of the PCB house looking and working like I designed it. The downside is cost. PADS has raised their prices incredibly in the years I've been using it. My yearly maintenance bill this year will be around $1400. Every year I promise myself I will change to something else, and I think this is the year. I think Eagle looks pretty good, for a "semi-pro" package. I've tried the demo, but I'd like to test the real thing for a while, too bad it doesn't come with a trial period. I should have tried out the cracked version when it was floating around(hey, a legitimate use for cracked software!). Autocad is fine if you know it well and do very simple boards. Otherwise use a dedicated schematic-pcb-autorouter package. It automates things nicely and you don't need to stay quite so alert to errors. I like to sleep soundly. Just my two cents... Cheers, Bob