I just bought a dynamite book on using AutoCad for electronics drafting. It is called Printed Circuit Board Design using AutoCad by Chris Schroeder. It has a utility to convert AutoCad output to Gerber and to Excellon Drill files - Just what I have needed! You gotta buy the book to get the utilities, but it's only about $20.. Get it from Amazon or from http://www.bh.com -- Lawrence Lile Download AutoCad blocks for electrical drafting at: http://members.sockets.net/~llile/index.htm