Why bother compiling pic tools for the Mac. Try Kevin Coble's excellent Pic assembler instead: ftp.srv.net/pub/users/kxc The assembler can be used in conjunction with several standard programmers. Also have a look at: http://www.concentric.net/~Jjlee/robotics/maclist.shtml Ronald Ronald Leenes [==] MacBrick@knoware.nl [==] [==] Wanninksakker 10, 7421 GC Deventer, [==] [==] MacBrick, Macintosh enhancements the Netherlands http://www.w4r.com/macbrick/index.html