If you be meaning the missing pullup on RA4 on the 16F84 for instance, this is because you may wish to control a device that may have a 12V swing to it. If a pull-up to the 5V supply was there, you would have an unwanted configuration wouldn't you. Some people think that this pin can also source more current, but I haven't seen this spec'd anywhere. Craig -----Original Message----- From: Andre Abelian To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Monday, June 22, 1998 3:38 PM Subject: internal pull up > >Hi to all Engineers. > >I like to know why In meny circuitrys including >microchip application notes internal pull ups are not used. >Is there any reason for that or this is just up to the designer. > > >Andre Abelian > thank you >