>Will, unless there is something major that I have missed on the PIC >datasheets, this is only true on a few of the PICs, like the 12C508/509. >Most of the PICs require an external R and C for RC osc. mode. You could >run it with just the R and use the pin capacitance and the board >capacitance for the C, >but it would be very unstable and vary _GREATLY_ from device to device. I stand corrected. Sorry about that. The internal RC osc is indeed a feature which is only available on some of the low-end devices. Will MacGregor Software Design Engineer Newbridge Networks Corp. tel: 613 738-2434 fax: 613 739-8267