Many cars have a way to read the EEC codes without requiring any special hardware, usually by flashing instrument panel lights in a sequence that tells you the code. You usually have to short some pins on a special connector (on my 1991 Cressida it is in the engine compartment), then do something such as turn the ignition key to a particular position to initiate the dump of the code. I know that many Ford and GM products have this feature, on these cars the dedicated EEC reader is just a convenience. Check out a shop manual for your vehicle (it won't be in your owners manual) before you go to the trouble of building any hardware. CIAO - Martin. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [OT] Water injection (was: Question for physics person) Author: pic microcontroller discussion list at Internet Date: 6/17/98 7:34 AM I am having the same problem on a ford 95 escort, got the Chilton repair manual and the codes are listed for the EEC and am thinking about building a full scale readout using the 16F84 and a display. the manual shows you how to use a VOM and read(?) the needle swings as a readout of the code. later......chuck > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay Shroff [SMTP:shroffja@FRC.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 1:37 PM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT] Water injection (was: Question for physics person) > > while we are on this OT subject, I'm wondering if someone has a circuit or > know of a place where I can buy a decoder to figure out the Ford EEC IV > error codes? > > My 92 Mustangs Check engine light stays on and I would like to figure out > why? > > Direct reply to me would be fine (This is way OT as is), if someone else > is > interested I can forward the email. > > Thanks > -- > Jay Shroff > Product Development - (Process controls) > Fanuc Robotics > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Miga > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > > >I have done extensive research concerning this. I developed the > >"aftermarket" engine computer interface units specifically for > >turbocharged gasoline engines. I discovered that with a mix of 50% > >distilled water and 50% methanol alcohol, I could raise the turbo > >pressure to 20 pounds(!:-))) > > on our test 1984 Mustang SVO without any detonation. Important: never > >use pure water, it will rust everything in sight! Even a small 5% > >methanol mix de-ionizes the water molecule so that it no longer acts as > >a catalyst to promote rust. The additional methanol (50%) cools the air > >charge to enable massive quantities of power. See ya at Road America... > > > >-Dave Miga, EDS, Inc. http://eds-inc.com > >