Bill, although I can't give you specifics right now, I can tell you that 8x1 LCD modules ARE made, so if you don't get a helpful response right away, don't give up. CIAO - Martin. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: LCD graphic display Author: pic microcontroller discussion list at Internet Date: 6/17/98 12:40 AM Does anyone make a SMALL, smart, LCD display? Something like 4 to 8 characters in 1x0.5x0.375 inches (or maybe 1x1x.25?) Obviously, you can do this with with a LCDdriver containing PIC and some bare LCDs, but I don't want to mess with LCDdriver software, surface mount technology (to get that many pins in that little space) or connecting things to glass with exotic connectors. I want (hypothetically, anyway) something that I can connect to Gnd, +5, and a single output pin (like the bigger smart lcd displays.) I guess this is essentially an LCD (low power) equivilent of the small multi-character smart LED displays made by several vendors... Thanks Bill W