I'm new to this Pic Things and I have couple of questions please forgive my li ttle knowladge : -I would like to buy a new Pic programer with limited budget and it must Support the new Pic12Cxxx Siries of Microchip. Is the Picstart plus is a good choice? any other options? - Is there any Pic else then pic684 with eeprom Program Area? - Is the 12Cxxx series EEprom,Eprom widowed or OTP? Please Advise Thanks in advance H. Hammoud -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums