At 09:19 AM 6/1/98 -0600, you wrote: >I will soon be starting a project where I will need to program surface >mount and/or PLCC PICs. Is there something similar to a PICSTART plus that >can be used? I also need to program 17C7xx pics, up to 68 pins. Can >anyone point me to the necessary hardware? I use two items: 1) the parallax SMT adapter for their programmer, and 2) a "universal SMT" adapter made by Aries, sold by Digi-Key, to do all SO-type stuff. Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Statistical Research, Inc. - Westfield, New Jersey USA ==================================================================