Bill: I hope you don't mind if I enjoyed this discussion and just jumped in. I just thought you might be interested to know that the box with the X had several meanings in different standards over the years. But one which may interest you is the case where the box with the X inside represented a "LOGICAL NOT" function and was used in fluid logic systems. Fluid logic was used in "XP" (explosion proof) - another use for the X- requirements such as Class 1, Division 1, Group C. I believe you may know that it was a system of air logic modules, i.e., AND< NAND, OR, NOR, NOT... GE picked up the symbol and used it in their "STATIC LOGIC BLOCKS", which were RTL logic functions made with discrete components and put on a male octal tube type plug. They used the symbol to represent a logical not for a long time. The STATIC LOGIC BLOCKS had some interesting functions like a "SEALED AND", and "RETENTIVE MEMORY". They were rudamentary, but They did lend themselves to some pretty sophisticated automation in their day. Richard :-) ---------- > From: Bill Cornutt > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT] XT -> crystal > Date: Monday, May 25, 1998 7:44 PM > > ---------- > > > > Bill, what has X > > > representing 'trans' got to do with 'crystal'? > > Marco, > > Nothing, I was just showing that some things are not logical. > > But I did like the crisscross information. And now I > have a reasion for 'Xmas'. > > Is a box with a X in it the symbol for a crystal? > If so, that brings up the question, "Which came first, > the box or the X?" (this is a variation of the classic > American (USA), English? question, "Which came first, > the chicken or the egg?" Which is not at all the same as > "Why did the chicken cross the road?" Which brings us > back to crisscross.) > > I've learned to over come reality, > > Bill C. bill@cornutt.com