>EMACS was like THE original freeware product.Ê It and most of its clones >are freeware, and most are available with full source code. You wouldn't be LIKE from Southern California or something would ya dude? Ê I am another unlikely supporter of EMACS. I learned it a few years ago back when I was still working for Japan Radio Co. because it was necessary to port much code back and forth between our homebrew test database on unix and my test applications under DOS.Ê Since my tendency is to do everything as efficiently as possible(some call this hacking, I don't know why....), I found it efficient to use just the one editor.Ê Also, EMACS doesn't just automatically screw with the carraige (sp?, not a father) return line feed characters like most dos or windows editors do, which is a real pain when your unix os is trying to execute your scripts after they've went through the dos editor! ..... then again, I was a big fan of Wordstar... and am really ticked at Windows 95 which forces me to use the mouse more often than I care too. Craig "Interfacing my brain" Lee Ê