Tech America, a subsidiary of Tandy Corp, at http://www.techam.com/ has a digital storage scope kit that converts a PC to a scope for about $90. The catalog gives no sampling rate. They also sell a handheld LCD scope for $200 that is good for 5Mhz (PC software available for $15), plus another meter that hooks up to a PC. Looks like a logic probe, costs around $100. SO.....Whaddya REALLY want?? Carl R, McIver (usually) or the wife (Janet) and kids Pull your head out to send me e-mail! jncmcivryourhead@gte.net -----Original Message----- From: Catch-It To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Midi in to PIC problems : PC based 'scope choices >> imho, if a scope shows a clean symmetrical vaweform after the opto, >>there should be no problem. pay attention to the rise and fall times, they >>should be negligible vs. the used baud rate (~30 usec/bit -> edges should >>be 3 usec wide or narrower). > > >aha! I have taken my DMM back to the shop and demanded they fit the scope >button back on it :-) > >Seriously, I cannot afford a full scope, has anybody got any recommendations >of a cheap PC based scope system ( I can see VIPS and PICO in a catalogue >here.... ) > > >Regards >Catchy....