At 08:48 AM 5/13/98 +0000, Lawrence Lile wrote: >Solon Wrote: > > >> Engineers: >> >> For a project based on PIC, How it can be feed from a source of 110 >> V AC 60 Hz without using a transformer? >> >> Thanks in advance > >Use a big, ugly, high power dropping resistor and a half wave diode. >As dumb as a post, this is the cheapest simplest power supply >available. Also one of the worst performing. PIC's work fine on it. > > >I do this all the time. Several other folks have noted some problems >- high power dissipation, and danger of people coming in contact with >the AC line. These things must be in an insulated case, or a >grounded enclosure. > >I've used a half wave rectirfier - dropping resistor - capacitor >power supply in several appliances. Someone suggested not using a >zener diode - that's a bad idea. Zeners are neccesary. The AC power >line is not very well regulated and fulla spikes. A zener will do a >little toward mitigating spikes (but not much!). > >You'll get lots better ripple and regulation if you drop in two steps >- first go from half wave AC to 24 volts, then to 5 volts. I often >need 24 volts to power a relay anyway, so this works well. In my >designs the 24 volt line goes to 40 or 50 volts when the relay is >off, so use a higher voltage capacitor. > >A better design, still cheap, is to use a metallized polyester film >capacitor of about .68 to 1.5 mfd, followed by a full wave bridge and >a much smaller, lower power dropping resistor. This avoids all that >heat and the expensive power resistor. It won't work with a half >wave bridge. > > >Best Regards, > >Lawrence Lile > > Maybe try a condensor-divider (in stead of resistors) in comb. ith some diodes???? Should dissipate a lot less. . (for replies contact me private, i'm temporarily off the list) Hans de Vries - H.P.d.Vries@stud.tue.nl +-------------------------------------------------+ | the Official MeadoW Homepage | | http://www.dse.nl/~meadow | | email: meadow@dse.nl | +-------------------------------------------------+