It is always difficult for a manufacturer to find out how the products are used and what the customers really want. Most manufacturers would respond to customers needs if they knew them. PIC list may be a way to get our needs defined in a way that would allow Microchip (or others) to improve. A way would be to list wanted features and then vote on them after some discussion. I would personally like to see a 16C711/715 type with 12 bit AD converter. Also a built-in 32kHz crystal. Crystals and capacitors takes space in circuits and the layout is difficult to design to handle high humidity and low power consumption. If this cannot be done then perhaps a solution as Texas Instruments DSP 430 which can use a 32kHz crystal and then an internal multiplier circuit. - 1-2 uA in sleep with time kept! Proposed list: A: Merit for you for individual feature. 0=min 9=max B: Merit for you between listed items. Only one feature to get a 0, one to get a 1 etc. Feature |A) 0-9 | B) 0-9 | --------------------|----------|----------| 12bit AD | | | --------------------|----------|----------| Built-in Xtal | | | --------------------|----------|----------| Better Power Man. | | | --------------------|----------|----------| | | | --------------------|----------|----------| | | | --------------------|----------|----------| | | | --------------------|----------|----------| If interested, please start by building the list with features. Best regards, Hans -- Temperature Technology 263 Gilbert Street ADELAIDE SA 5000 web page: http://dove.net.au/~ttec email: ttec@dove.net.au --