Have you tried RF Solutions ICEPICs - I have several and they emulate at full speed with trace. They have different daughter boards to cover the pic range. They are well engineered, work with MPLAB or you can use their own ICEPIC software - which then allows you to have more than one ICEPIC running together which I need when developing systems that 'talk' to each other. The best thing is that they work and are very reasonably priced - highly recommended. Stephen H Alsop, dms@ukonline.co.uk Office: S&S Systems Ltd, UK. info@s.ssystems.easynet.co.uk http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~s.ssystems ---------- : Anybody have any experiences with the I-Systems PIC ICE products? : : I'd like to know what people think before plunking down my company's cash. : : Andy