>If you are talking about C compilers, there's no doubt in my mind that the
>compilers offered for HC11 are better. This is simply because HC11 is much
>more suited for C than PIC's. As far as I know, HC11 has got a GCC based
>freeware c compiler, although I haven't been using it.

I used Cosmic's compiler.

Did you really think you could get away with a blanket statement that the
HC11
is much more suited for C than PIC's?  From my evaluation of both, I find
the
final coding on the PIC to be about half the size of that on the HC11.
Maybe,
I'm missing something..................  But never mind my opinion, can you
offer some
specifics to back up you claim?  Anyone?


>This is really the great part! At home I have a HC11 with 64K of external
>RAM with battery backup. The total time for compiling and downloading a new
>SW revision is about 20 seconds. I even don't have to open the case! With
>Microchip, we unfortunately have to wait for another year or so, until the
>new flash devices hit the market.

Is this possible to do with PICs anyone, it is a pain in the arse to work
with windowed
devices.  That's why I test most of my coding on the '84.   I know that the
emulator will
do this, but I'm looking for a cheaper solution, so I don't have to go and
buy X number
of emulators for all the development we will be doing.


Craig