If Microchip were to get together with another company, I would PIC MAXIM. I love MAXIM's customer support and samples. In addition, I recently had an experience with an AD device that I tried to interface to for several days. Finally, in frustration, I ordered a MAX186 from Digikey and had it working flawlessly in a matter of hours. My two cents, Paul Kolesnikoff PS. Give the jobs/spelling/teachers thread a rest! Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 06:16:42 -0700 From: Steven Kosmerchock Subject: Re: I wish for ---, listen up Microchip! Personally I like the idea!! Afterall if they want the best possilble product they need to put pride aside and get with the new technology. If AD and Microchip did get together I imagine the other mC's would be shaking in their socket pins. ---- PICLIST(a)MITVMA.MIT.EDU's Message ---- I went to an Analog Devices seminar today. Toward the end of the skit, they showed a couple of slides of an 8051 based processor design coupled with a 12 bit ADC and a 12 bit DAC, with other stuff. Seems a third party really wanted this stuff, and most processor fabricators cannot do a very good job on analog. Thus, most processors never go over 10 bits internal. I quizzed the fellow about this defacto limitation, and he said, 'We're analog devices. Of course we got the analog right. It is tested.". So my gears turned. . If we all cry out in unison, maybe we can get Microchip to partner with AD to get a good analog peripheral on their parts. MOST of the time, I couple a PIC with a 12 bit ADC. Time and time again, 8 bits is just not enough. I have a sinking feeling that Microchip knows that it is a steep learning curve, and they just put it off for another day. I know I would like the better ADC on the PIC, but I would like to know what all of you think. I would like to know who thinks it is a great idea, and who thinks it is rubish. And maybe Darrel from Microchip can pass along the idea to development engineering at Microchip (hint, hint). Chris Eddy, PE Pioneer Microsystems, Inc.