Dave Duley wrote: >99% of all teachers are underpaid and grossly overworked! 99% of everyone are underpaid and overworked. What has that got to do with having qualified, and more important, motivated people teaching our kids? >Teaching is the only Professional type profession that is controlled by the >massivly underqualified! Any profession or occupation with government regulation is being controlled by the massively unqualified, consider the medical profession for example. >One needs a bachelors degree, a teaching credential and 1 year of unpaid >apprentiship only to be paid less than most construction workers and asked to >work not only at work but in the evenings and during vaccations. And then >they have to keep taking classes to prove to the state that they are still >worthy to teach. The real world is changing at a breakneck pace. Teachers are isolated from that change. Many technical teachers are teaching methods and concepts that are years out of date. Why shouldn't they be required to at least attempt to stay current, and then evaluated on it? Most technical people don't think twice about maintaining their education on their own time, why shouldn't teachers? Many teachers use professional development days as paid days off, and how many professions get 3 solid months off every year, which BTW, is another example of strong teacher trade unions forcing outdated procedures on the general public. Those 3 months originally allowed students to spend the summer months helping their families on the farm, which, in case you haven't noticed, most families don't have these days. But of course the unions ferociously resist any attempt to adjust the school year to reflect the current reality, despite the financial hardship this places on today's families when they are required to pay for some form of day care for kids that are in school the rest of the year. >Then they elect housewives and baptist asshole ministers to govern the whole >thing whilst mandating methods of teaching that failed in the 40s but somehow >are now expected to work! And the teacher's unions fight any attempt at reform with walkouts and slowdowns and "Days of Action" protests. Witness the recent attempts to correct the system in Ontario Canada. Those housewives are sending their children to those teachers with the hope that they will be educated in a manner consistent with their values and aspirations. Are you saying they don't have a valid interest in the operation of the schools? Oh, and BTW, let's keep your arrogant, ignorant religious prejudices out of this, OK? >If you could do your job with both hands tied behind your back and one leg >wraped around your neck, then and only then would you be qualified to have an >opinion of what teaching is really about! Oohh, clever, wrap it up with the "walk a mile in their shoes" argument, as if you have to be an engineer to know that someone screwed up when a bridge falls down. A close friend of our family, who was a teacher for over forty years, is appalled by the lack of professionalism and self centered attitude of today's teachers. As an example, she tells of the system in Ontario where teachers are paid on a scale depending on how many degrees that teacher has acquired, regardless of the usefulness of those degrees. One teacher she knew well accumulated multiple degrees, entitling her to an income equal to a Vice Principal, EVEN THOUGH MANY OF THOSE DEGREES HAD ABSOLUTELY NO RELEVANCE TO HER TEACHING DUTIES. Some time later, a need was identified at another NEARBY school for the expertise provided by one of her degrees, but she refused to transfer to that school, and the union contract stipulated that she could not be forced. IMNSHO that's fine, but if you don't go, you don't get paid a premium for the skill you refuse to use. Yes there are exceptions, and most of us can point to a teacher that we remember as "special" in our lives, but I for one am sick of this "pity the poor teachers" mentality being promoted by their powerful trade unions. BTW, Dave, by any chance do you have a teacher in your family? Martin R. Green