>> Hi All >> >> can someone find a job with... pic programming knowledge only... or >> learning to program pic is not meant for job just for fun Sam, PIC's are not just for fun, they are used in thousands of products. As for getting a job knowing only how to program PIC's, I would have to say that your chances are very slim. If you would bear with me for a moment, I'd like to give you a different slant on your question. Medical knowledge spans a fairly wide range. On the low end, a boy scout may get a merit badge in first aid. There are paramedics, nurses, medical researchers, family doctors, surgens, and brain surgens. Brain surgens make a lot of money, and you don't see too many out of work brain surgens. On the other hand, I have not seen too many jobs that required a merit badge in first aid. Knowing how to program a single family of processors is like a merit badge. You gain useful knowledge, but you are not likely to get a job because of it. I have programmed in over a dozen high level languages, and I've programmed in assembly language for over 20 processors. The language is like a kind of wood. You can build a book shelf out of pine, or oak, or walnut. Each type of wood is a little different, and you have to handle them a little different, but it is still a book shelf. An employer cares a lot more about about your knowledge of how to build a book shelf or a set of cabinets than how much you know about a certain type of wood. At least here in the United States, you can make a reasonable living with a two year degree in computer programming. You will make a little less than twice as much with a four year degree, so if you can make it through calculus and physics, it's worth it in the long run. Just my two cents worth. By the way, I have a BSCS in computer architecture and I've been programming for 20 years. I've also done digital and analog design, and have a fairly broad background in RF. I also made a living writing magazine articles for a while. Just to let you know how I've formed my opinions. Wynn