---------- > Hi All > > can someone find a job with... pic programming knowledge only... or > learning to program pic is not meant for job just for fun > > > sam > Sam, Your question in interesting. Programming is the art of solving problems using strict rules. Every language and microprocessor has slightly different rules. So Your question may be stated as "If I only learn one set of rules, can I get a job?" I am interested in art. I have limited myself to using green watercolor and painting the leaves of flowers. Needless to say, even though my paintings are true reproductions of various green leaves, I have not sold many paintings. With programming, not only do you need to know the rules, but you need to be able to solve problems. To learn the rules of a language you need to write programs. And with every program you will get better. And with solving problems, the same applies. You need to write programs and solve the problems as they come up. School is a great way to learn. The courses have been designed to guide you through the learning process and the instructor is there to help you when you have a problem. Also your class mates will be a help when you sit around and talk to them. But it is up to you to learn. Don't just complete the assignments, try to make them the best you can. And write programs on your own that are not assigned in class. Program, program, program..... The pic is not the best place to start. It is complicated and there is nothing more flustratting then to spend days trying and not accomplish anything. I would suggest that if you have no experience programming, that you start with Qbasic. Qbasic will allow you to start out with simple programs and as your skill increases, you can use the more advance features and build on your knowledge. I have not answered all of your questions, but others will have advice also. Bill C bill@cornutt.com