>The 83/84 is an >eight pin cmos dip that takes your quadrature encoder signals and gives >you a count up/count down or a pulse/direction to feed directly to your >PIC or a 74193 or a 4516 counter. Hello, Siemens manufacture rotary encoders with this functionality built in. I only know of one model: SFH-910. I am sure other manufacturers include this too. Stuart. __________________________________________________________________ Stuart Allen Tel : +49 (0)711 5858-501 Development Engineer Fax : +49 (0)711 5858-199 Sony Stuttgart Technology Center Stuttgarter Strasse 106 D-70736 Fellbach, Germany __________________________________________________________________