> >Does the slate reflect or absorb infrared? If it absorbed, > > Go work on a slate roof and find out :-0 > > Andy I deserved that. Bill C. Actually, there's a huge difference between near IR at about 900nM and heat IR (longwave) at about 10,000nM You can also use specular and diffuse reflections to distinguish a target. I've done this for reflectively sensing paper behind lexan, where the lexan may be dirty/scratched. The sensor is designed to optimise diffuse reflections and reject specular. (Cost: $1.50)