Your right it will probably spoil you. I tried my luck with the HC11 development tools before this, and threw up my hands in disgust. After countless hours talking to blank faced Motorola engineers ( who probably have it out for me), I switched the whole project to Microchip, and started from scratch. It turns out the development environment is, press F10 and voila!... and since I am using an ANSI C compiler, all the stuff I learned in the last 8 years writing test software is not lost in this new frontier. MPLAB was a bit quirky at first, but after solving these minor issues, I'm quite happy. I'm glad you find it to your liking too. Craig -----Original Message----- From: bowman To: Craig Lee Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 11:00 PM Subject: Re: MPLAB under Windows 95 > >: What I had to do was wait for the MPLAB timout message to come up, switch >to >: the dos box and quickly hit pause. This suspended the dos box. Then I >set >: it's >: properties so that it didn't suspend the background, and I set the idle >to >: high. > >thanks! i had tried to change the properties with no joy. 3.11 let you mess >with the pif, but i had had no reason to mess around with 95's DOS modes. >caught the properties button on the window before it died, modified it, and >it seem to work. don't know how it will be when i restart MPLAB. > >: I've seen the same thing when trying to include DOS tools under Borland >C. >: Perhaps >: it's a Borland library issue....... > >may well be. i got burned by the OWL a few times. VC++ has its moments too, >but has worked better for me. still don't know why they do that last getc() >in MPASM. probably to let you see the results in DOS mode, but i think it >would work better with MPLAB if they'd remove it. > >nice tool when i got it to work. probably spoil me for the primitive 8051 >setup i use. > >bob >