Personally, I'm really quite pleased with MPLAB. I use it with Hitech's PIC C and it integrates quite nicely. My source files first compile to objects, and then the linker combines them into HEX code. Use version 3.40. 3.31 works, but 3.40 is much more integrated with PICC. Each module can be compiled with different options. ie. If one module doesn't play nice optimized, optimization can be left out. Also all the linker options are configurable. All this in a convenient point and click box! It may be more difficult trying to integrate a compiler not supported by MPLAB. Supported compilers include Microchip, Bytecraft, and HiTech. Then you have the integrated simulator, programmer, and support for an external emulator. Also, it is now possible to run more than one MPLAB at once to control 2 emulators for perhaps debugging pic to pic communications. Another nice feature is that the project file is actually text. This way I can control it's revision via RCS, as well as all the other source files, and verify the changes with DIFF. So I like it, but growing up as a C programmer, I am quite comfortable with the IDE and project environment. Nice job Darrel! Craig -----Original Message----- From: Bob Blick To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 9:46 AM Subject: Re: third the charm? > >MPLAB is very counterintuitive, requiring lots of muddling around to find >the important commands and also whether "the chicken comes before the >egg". > >Everything is based around the idea of a "project". If you create a new >project, and point it to files, it should then be able to find what it >needs. > >Don't listen to people who tell you to RTFM. You shouldn't have to RTFM to >use a Windows program. > >Cheers, > >Bob "only uses it because he has a picstart plus" Blick > >P.S. anyone who does a program that runs the picstart plus, you've got a >customer here! > > >On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, bowman wrote: > >> sorry if this is being reposted, but the list has returned it to me twice, >> stating >> that a similar message has been posted, and it wasn't this one, afaik. >> >> >> Has anyone been using the latest MPLAB? i installed it, but not in the >> default C:\MPLAB directory. when i try to do the single source example in >> TUTOR.PDF, i get a 'can't find SAMPLE.HEX' type error after trying to build >> the project. if i open SAMPLE.ASM and attempt to assemble it, it says it >> can't find an open file of the proper name. >> >> i'm new to PICs, and while the IDE seems like a useful tool, it is quite a >> bit different from the 80xx tools i'm using, and i don't want to spend a >> lot of time playing with an apparent beta level tool when the DOS MPASM and >> MPSIM with PFE will get the job done. >> >> thanks for the input >> >> bowman >> >